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Sunday, December 25, 2022

A Five Fold Ministry Part#1

The Potential

The potential for any and every gift given by God is within each and every church in the Body of Christ.

Ephesians 4:7 But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.

Ephesians 4:8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.

Ephesians 4:9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?

Ephesians 4:10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)

Ephesians 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and 

Ephesians 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:

Ephesians 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

1 Corinthians 12:27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.

1 Corinthians 12:28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

1 Corinthians 12:29 Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?

1 Corinthians 12:30 Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?

1 Corinthians 12:31 But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.


1 Corinthians 14:12 Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church.

Of course, the most effective way was/is charity.

No place in the does bible state that gifts are given to establish a restored ministry. Nowhere in the Bible does it promise gifts as a sign of the restoration of the Latter-Day-Reigning Church.

The Fivefold Ministry is a doctrine created by ministers with sincere intentions to assist the Body of Christ, as well as control the narrative of promises. This would give a unified goal of hope and authority to men tasked with holding together the Body of Christ as one people.

Most worthwhile things created by man seem to fracture at some point including this doctrine which evolved into a part of the extended mechanism of the Godhead. Though the doctrine was intended to explain the usages of gifts, it became more than it was intended. Accordingly, the content of that authority is founded and taught from 2 Corinthians 5:19-20, which uses the phrase "we pray you in Christ's stead." This scripture, added to the doctrine, gives the ministry of the Body of Christ authority, power and absolute authority, in Christ’s stead, to judge with all authority pursuing all things for the idea of the protection of the saints.

2 Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

2 Corinthians 5:20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.

In order to give this agenda of control real substance and power, it is explicitly taught that the saints of God have no Bible right to judge, challenge nor question the ministry of the Body of Christ. This generates the premise of no recourse or accountability of the ministry to the saints. There is a teaching that the church is a woman and should learn her place by becoming fully submissive to the ministry.

1 Timothy 2:11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.

1 Timothy 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.


There is huge responsibility for accountability within the group of ministers and for the ministry itself. They are responsible for one another through group consensus if each recognized minister agrees. Which is in fact a misnomer for acceptability because there is a recognized hierarchy within the ministry who rules and makes decisions.

How any issue or matter comes into the order of consideration before the ministry to be judged and considered depends upon who brings the matter as much as the matter itself.

A minister may be accused of unacceptable behavior by members of their church or the group ministry of the Body itself. This matter may hold more weight if the accusers are the whole church rather than a single individual from a church.

Due to many mitigating factors or to the intensity of the circumstances, the ministry at that time may or may not have questioned the behavior or addressed the situation. 

If the ministry makes a judgement, the outcome may be negative or positive. It may be accepted or rejected by the minister or saint being judged.

There may be consequences for not accepting the group consensus; which may or may not be viewed as excessive or minor depending on the minister in question. 

Major offenses could result in the ministry ruling in the majority or minority, depending on who the aggrieved person is and in a ruling of disfellowship from the Body of Christ.

 Accepted Belief

It is an accepted belief that a saint/minister must listen to the ministry and obey their instructions, because obedience will save their soul and their soul cannot be eternally saved unless you submit to the ministry.

These beliefs are instilled and given power by the ministry and the saints.

However, due to the fact that this ministry is a convergence of ministers, there are hidden issues, agendas, and discussions of biblical origin weakening the authority of the convergence of ministers.   

Over the decades of continued discourse, it became clear that the need for coerced dependence had to be created. This would strengthen the position of power of the controlling ministry on the saints and minor ministers of God. The doctrine of the Five Fold Ministry evolved from helping gifts into more controlling positions than is biblically incorrect.

The authority of the Ministry had to be more reliable at some point. It was concluded that they needed a major purpose for their existence. To make the ministry a matter of necessity, the doctrine of a restored church was essential.

To meet this need, the ministry decided to become a part of the doctrine of perfection by solidifying their ministry as a group.

It became imperative that first the ministry be purified and freed from sin before any other saint of the Body of Christ. Therefore, it was also concluded that the ministry would be able to use all of its gifts 24/7 without being interrupted. 

This would guarantee that the ministry would no longer have any theological or biblical differences or problems internally. 

This interpretation of doctrine empowered the ministry and turned the gifts into titles of authority called the Five-fold ministry transforming the ministry from a lowly helping group into a ruling body class that rivals the Bride of Christ.

The idea was and is that the Fivefold ministry would possess all the gifts, proving there would be no biblical differences within the convergence of ministers would then allow the ministry to rule the world at the side of the Bride and Jesus...which...is not biblical.

The beauty of the agenda of these combined doctrines preached is that only God could make them true. It cannot be challenged because it is based on a combined doctrine that would then conflict with God's word and His ministry.

A flawless caveat, taught by the majority of ministers, does not imply anything faulty about the ministry or anything else it has promised that may never happen. It also doesn't imply anything else it has taught that may not be fulfilled. This is because God hasn't made the Perfect Five Fold ministry nor, according to the majority of ministers is God ready to restore the church... yet.


 The Canon

The Doctrine of the Five Fold Ministry became a canon that should not be questioned (by any saint of the Body). The doctrine is the belief that first and foremost there must be a ministry..with all the gifts..given to only worthy ministers..before a perfected church could be restored to the former position of the early reign church..in order or before (which is a strange dichotomy of which comes first the chicken or the egg) for the saints to become perfected in Jesus, which...again...is not biblical.

What is biblical is this...there was an Early Reign Church that withdrew into the wilderness. In our current dispensation that church has become the Latter Reign Church, which has come out of the wilderness, and it is no longer hidden by the earth.

In the meantime, Satan had/is making war with the remnant of the early reign church (overcomers from that church) including, in our dispensation, those that are the remnant of her early reign seed (which is the latter reign church) who are becoming perfected in our current day.

Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Notice the remnant “keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ”. The remnant of the Early Reign Church were the saints who continued to perfection despite the false prophets driving the church into the wilderness. 

The remnant in our dispensation keep the commandments which were gathered from that Early Reign Church today and forever more.

Notice there is no mention of the Five Fold ministry or gifts entering the wilderness nor coming out of the wilderness. The church in the wilderness, mentioned as being the main topic of the scriptures above, needed to be helped out of the wilderness by the teaching of an overcoming doctrine. It was the doctrine of perfection that brought the church out of the wilderness.

In truth there is nothing to be restored, only a church to be completed. Without a body there would be no church. To be a complete man child, the ministry must assist the body of Christ in producing the church that will produce the rest of the bride of Christ.

The first Christian church did not have the Bible. They did not have the teachings of the apostles, prophets and teachers written in a book as we do in our current dispensation. This is a significant difference between the early and latter day churches. This book, the King James Bible (and 2000 years) makes our dispensation much different from the first Church of Christ.

Historically, the Early Reign Church lost their gifts to share with the Latter Reign Church. This is because of the time span and false prophets who diminished the ability of the saints to compel God to deliver his true messages.

The first church established gifts and purposes, but lost the power of the gifts as their purpose was diluted before both were swallowed up by the earth. The Early Reign Church is an example and resource for the Latter Reign Church. This is because the early church laid the foundation for the Latter Reign Church to build upon.

In our dispensation the Body of Christ can now understand of the true messages of the Word and the Holy Spirit. TheLatter Reign Church is now capable of receiving these gifts shared with the Early Reign Church.

continued in next post part #2

https://thesamebutonlydifferent.blogspot.com/2022/12/a-five-fold-ministry-part-2.html

1 comment:

  1. Very well written my friend. You have brought up many points to be studied and considered.
    Brother David Perkins

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